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The Building of a Superpipe

January 15, 2009

Hi Folks,

Telluride Ski Resort is completing the construction of a new superpipe and terrain park in the area which has night lights next to the surface (platter) lift #2.

In this blog, I thought I'd explain the process that was used to build the Telluride superpipe.

Below is the area as construction starts. We started by making several piles of man-made snow and also recycled snow that was produced for the World Cup Snowboardcross course in December. Cats first begin pushing up the walls:

The walls are then roughed in with winch cats which are capable of pushing snow uphill. You really can't see in this picture below, but the lower cat has a winch on the back of it, with an arm that carries the cable over the cab. The cable is attached to the upper cat as an anchor point. The winch assists the lower cat's climbing/pushing ability. The pipe needs a 16 degree pitch, 18 foot walls, and around 400 feet in length. Continual surveying takes place to verify these specifications. At this point, excess snow is spilling into the center of the pipe as the cat gains elevation with the walls:

All that excess snow is then pushed out the bottom of the pipe by stepping the walls down from top to bottom with a cat. A chain saw is used to cut the top edge so it is straight and smooth.

Then, this big bad boy is brought out. This pipe cutter is called a Zaugg and completes the finished walls to 18 feet:

The Zaugg is a slow process. Many passes are required as it is merely a "finishing tool". Inch by inch, the Zaugg pulls snow down towards the bottom of the pipe and then blows it over the top of the deck, creating smooth walls with a consistent radius:

The new superpipe is scheduled to open at 5:00 p.m., January 16th with a ribbon cutting ceremony. We hope you can attend. Over the next few nights, we will add other jumps and rails under the lights. Night operation is scheduled for 4:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. Thursday through Sunday nights - although prior to January 21st we will close at 7:00 p.m. because we need to have a meeting with the Town of Mountain Village on 1/21 to get approval to run the lights the extra hour.

Tickets and night season passes can be purchased at the Mountain Village ticket office.

I'd like to thank everyone (too numerous to mention here) who have worked long and hard to build this new and exciting superpipe and terrain park.

Please feel free to post any questions or comments. Enjoy! - Dave

 

 

 

Comments

benji charleston said:

Awesome! This is just awesome.

Dave's reply: It's looking good.

# January 15, 2010 10:42 PM

lucinda reer said:

The halfpipe is fantastic, we could not be any more stoked here in Telluride, Thanks So Much!

Dave's reply: Thanks go out to all the hard work the staff put into this venture!

# January 17, 2010 3:31 PM

Patrick said:

Dave,

I was just wondering why milk run is closed.

Thanks,

Patrick

Dave's reply: Hi Patrick, the groomers are pushing out the big snowmaking piles for the ski race course.

# January 18, 2010 10:56 AM

Cindy said:

I like the location of the Superpipe and terrain park this year much better!  Misty Maiden is a much safer ride. It is also nice to have the easier slope on the other side of the trees as an alternative to Misty Maiden when it is very crowded. I also love having the wide slope back on the top of Polar Queen. These are great improvements that benefit everyone and make our mountain much more enjoyable. I hope the kids love the new Superpipe and the opportunity to ride at night.

The race hill location on Butterfly is also a great improvement in a more visible location. I have heard much more interest in participating from fellow lift riders.

Thanks for the increase in presence of the safety patrols in areas that can get conjested.  There is a noticable difference skier and rider responsibility with the presence of the patrols. I have felt much safer on the mountain since you addded more patrols.

I realize that you have opened up the gates at the bottom of See Forever more than before, but this area is still very difficult to maneuver and dangerous.  Can't we put the gates parallel to Village Bypass and See Forever to separate these two slopes and leave the bottom of See Forever open so we can slow down on the flatter part at the end rather than on the steep part? The slope in the area just before the gates gets skied off and slick from everyone slowing to go through the gates. How about a small slow sign and a safety patrol in this area to control those that are going too fast and leave the rest of us to enjoy?  

Looks like we are getting some great snow this week!  

Dave's reply: Hi Cindy, the "slow zone" gates on See Forever near the top of the Coonskin Lift (7) are intended to mitigate skier congestion and improve safety in that intersection. We've experimented with a few different designs for that set-up. I'm out of town this week at a few different resorts and found a neat idea which I want to suggest to our patrol folks to consider. Thanks for your input.

# January 19, 2010 12:06 PM

todkehrli said:

Hi Dave,

Glad to see some fresh powder this week!  Do you have any sense for what it will take to open up more terrain on Gold Hill and Black Iron Bowl?  I arrive next Tuesday and am hoping the chutes will be open.

Thanks

TK

Dave's reply: Hi Tod, I'm up in Steamboat right now at a National Ski Areas Association trade show. Anyway, southern Colorado, including Telluride, has some of the best snow in the Rockies right now - no joke. I've talked with many ski area operators in the country over the last few days. The big amount of snow coming into our region again over the next several days is going to set us up for a good run, but the avalanche work may take some time to open certain extreme terrain. Have a great time back in Telluride.

# January 19, 2010 8:35 PM

Mark said:

Awesome job on the superpipe!  I'm don't ride it, but I know a bunch of people who do and missed it last year, I think the more the better for Telluride, make it the best in the west.  

This morning, the 18th (1st powder day since new years day as you know), I got on the gondola with a bunch of others at 9am, we all had gear on and skis to load.  Then we reach the top and are not allowed to exit.  No one at the bottom informed us that we couldn't get off, and 8 and 7 were loaded, we could see that on the way up. The following chair wasn't allowed to exit either.  This is total BS, especially on a powder day.  I know the gondola people are not direct employees of the mountain, but come on! There has to be some communication there.  We should have been told before loading that you could not get off on top.

Dave's reply: I'll have to look into what you're talking about. The gondola is operated by the Town of Mountain Village but the coordination usually works like clockwork. Thanks for the heads-up. P.S. It is possible you could have been looking at early employees on Chair 7, that could have been confusing - anyway, I'm not presuming you're wrong and will look into it. Thanks.

# January 20, 2010 1:03 AM

Erik said:

Just wondering why Black Iron wasn't open today.  It didn't even look like anyone was doing any work up there??  I mean it was open yesterday, and we didn't get that much new snow.  (1" by your calculations)  Isn't it the goal to provide the best ski experience?  We haven't even had snow for 3 weeks, and for some reason the best terrain on the mountain isn't open.  And I'm not buying that it's because of the avalanche danger as it was open yesterday until 2pm and got skied extensively.  It was also open yesterday during intense periods of snow.  It's just disappointing that this seems to be more of the norm around here instead of the exception.

Dave's reply: Below is a reply from Craig Sterbenz, who is in charge of our avalanche mitigation program:

"We received 5” inches of snow (indicated on the snow report) and had 40 mile an hour winds.  The winds loaded snow on the leeward side of Prospect Ridge.  The snow fell on a weak snowpack interface.  The High Camp Patrol crew focused on opening the “hike to” terrain up to Genevieve.  They also focused on Bald Mountain because of it’s proximity to terrain that provides egress out of the lift 12 pod.

Based on the current forecast he is uncertain if Black Iron Bowl will open in the morning, but they will assess the situation when they arrive in the morning."

Dave adds: While I appreciate your passion for skiing Erik, we go to great lengths to act responsibly when it comes to skier / rider safety - additionally, I don't agree with your comment that we have some "chronic" problem... :) enjoy the fresh pow!

Have a great ski season!

# January 20, 2010 3:01 PM

Taylor said:

hey dave i had a great season of skiing during christmas especially the amazing powder on new years day in some places up to waist deep. but anyways i was wandering after this next storm will palmyra peak and the other terrain open up? if not do you think it will be open by march 13?

Dave's reply: Hi Taylor, The snowpack across the rockies has been a little tricky in terms of stabilty in the extreme areas this season - but the work that has been accomplished recently plus the additional snow coming in raises the odds of opening Palmyra Peak. Stay tuned.

# January 20, 2010 4:29 PM

Chris said:

Wow!!

Anyone complaning about terrain not opened by patrol

should check this out form you old stomping grounds!

www.skihood.com/.../Anatomy-of-an-Avalanche

Dave's reply: Hi Chris, yep, I saw that blog too. It's a little different circumstance because the slide started in the Wilderness area above the ski area - an area that the USFS doesn't permit AC work to be conducted. Nevertheless, it does outline the destructive nature of avalanches. That slide happened a few times when I used to work there. It's an amazing thing to see in terms of the distance, width, and depth it runs. It's also interesting because MHM did install a Howitzer just recently but are not allowed to fire it up on the Wyeast face, even though where it's located would work, which would sure help. They have a great group of dedicated people running their patrol deparment, as does Telluride. Heather and Clark Canyon are challenging.

# January 22, 2010 12:33 AM

Bennie said:

That Porcupine who hangs out in Prospect Basin was run over by one of your snowmobiles.  Recognizing that accidents happen it is still a sad thing for me and others who thought he was pretty cool.  Can you say if it was intentional?

Dave's reply: I've been out of town this week and that's news to me. I'll look into it. I can't imagine it would be intentional.

# January 22, 2010 9:15 AM

david said:

sorry for being off the subject but i looked for the anatomy of an avalanche info at mt hood, bad link, but i noticed their pass deals. it sure would be nice if you could offer similar deals like the spring pass or mid week pass.

Dave's reply: Thanks for your input David. The model at MHM is quite different than Telluride as MHM is an urban day area with 2.5 mm people within 90 minutes by car.

# January 22, 2010 8:27 PM

mikeholm said:

Hi Dave, I'm coming up after the olympics and wasn't planning on commenting until after the trip. I was up at Jackson when a ski Patroller "Big" Wally died in bounds.  He was doing AC work and got burried in 6 feet for 20 min--died two weeks later.  It's been a strange year for snow--I appreciate your cautious approach. Can't wait to see the pipe!

Dave's reply: My wife and I were friends with Big Wally from back in the 80's when we both worked at Jackson Hole. It was a very unfortunate event. He live a big life though.

# January 23, 2010 7:23 PM

Tim from Montrose said:

Wow, today was amazing!!!!! This storm has definitely helped out. The Sunday after New Years was my first day this year and one of the worst I have seen at Telluride( I am a bit spoiled by the last 2 seasons. It was snowing pretty hard when we left. I'm sure Sundance will get groomed tonight, but man was it rough when we headed back to the parking garage...other than that, the mountain was plain and simply awesome today! And, as usual...the staff was great. Keep it up and let pray for more snow!

Dave's reply: We've received over 3 feet of snow in the last 7 days. The rockies have been dry this year, and Telluride (southern mountains) has received the best weather pattern all season. I was at a conference this week in Steamboat - they really need snow. We've been much more fortunate.

# January 23, 2010 8:35 PM

Ed Asner said:

Stickers the porcupine is live and well and happy to come say hi to visitors on lower magnolia. (dont feed him!)

Dave's reply: Hi Ed, thanks for the info. Everyone was trying to figure out what the deal was. Funny thing, I was at Beaver Creek skiing this morning and saw a staff member down loading what looked like a marmot in a live trap on the chairlift. Critter gitter.

# January 24, 2010 5:10 PM

Ryan said:

Hi, Dave

Dave I am coming to Telluride for the first time on Feb 12th for 4 days.  I am a boarder but i love all the skier stuff like the powder and gladed runs.  Was the recent snow storm large enough to open Palmyra and Gold chutes?  I understand all the avalanche work that needs to be done as well.  I was at snowbird last year just after they had there avalanche and was at Jackson hole last year two days before their avalanche occurred.    

Dave's reply: Hi Ryan, things are looking really good around here. Black Iron Bowl hike-to terrain is open up to Mountain Quail, Jello Bowl and Nice Chute. Baldy is open too. Gold Hill 1 and 1.5 are open. The other areas are still being worked on by our patrol crews. You're going to have a great time! More chutes on GH and possibly Palmyra might be open by the time you arrive. Much of it has been sliding, sometimes all the way to the ground. We'll have to see.

# January 25, 2010 10:26 AM

out of towner said:

how about some pictures of the new snow, photo of the day hasnt been updated since Dec. 9th!

Stoked to come out and ski all the new fluff you guys have

Dave's reply: Will do. Thanks!

# January 27, 2010 4:29 PM

DavidF said:

Hi Dave,

 My name is also David and I'm heading out to Telluride early tomorrow morning (sat.) with a group of 21 from our ski club, Montachusett Ski club from the central Massachusetts area. A friend of mine, who's family runs our local ski area, Wachusett Mountain told me to look you up when we get there. Hope to meet you.

David

Dave's reply: Hi David: Yep, David and Jeff Crowley are good friends of mine. I'll be coming over to the reception to welcome you guys. You're going to love Telluride!

# January 29, 2010 11:14 AM

double said:

Dave

 is the superpipe open during regular skiing hours?  I know its open for night skiing, but I cant imagine why it wouldnt be open during regular hours as well????

Dave's reply: Yes, the superpipe is open during the day too.

# January 29, 2010 6:56 PM

Jason Troth said:

Dave,

I want to open by extending a huge thank you to all who were involved in getting the pipe built and open. Having overseen maintenance and assisted in construction of multiple pipes over the years I know how much effort is involved!!! Much respect!!!

Here is a brief personal bio so my input is received well. I have lived here in Telluride for 6 yrs now coming from Aspen and Crested Butte as previous home mountains. I am a veteran Pro Snowboarder, 3 time X Games competitor and now a 10 yr USSA Snowboarding Coach. For two years I ran the competitive on and off snow training programs for the Telluride Mountain School.

During this time I helped with the formation of Telluride's first Park and Pipe committee which consisted of all associated department heads of TelSki and any other individual who were involved in Park or Pipe operations. It was during these meetings that the positive aspects of using Comp Hill as the pipe location was outlined and discussed at length.

Under your support and direction, it is wonderful to see that it does work very well to have a pipe on Comp Hill.

With this new commitment to offering a unique nighttime training venue with private lift access, Telluride will begin to produce it's own professional athletes and in doing so become a premier training and competitive venue for Professional Skiing and Snowboarding!

I understand the legal issues with doing summer time excavation at this location, yet in my opinion it is worth the both the investment and the hassle. The returns on such an investment would increase dramatically as each year passes and Telluride's commitment is recognized within the industry.

As it stands now the skiers right wall is smaller in height than the left. More importantly, this situation could create negative feedback within the Statewide and National ski and snowboard communities and the National publications who rank the quality of parks and pipe annually. As any marketing person knows, undoing bad press can be difficult while receiving good press is priceless!

If this 18' pipe is built to industry standards from year to year Telluride will be on the map as a top destination for event organizers, Pro and Amateur   athletes, and families alike.

Thank you for your hard work time and consideration,

Jason Troth

Dave's reply: Hi Jason, glad you're enjoying the new pipe and its location. The wall height can be adjusted pretty easily. That's the first anyone has mentioned it, we'll work on it the next time it's cut. Sorry about the small edit.

# January 30, 2010 3:56 PM

Shawn White Wannabe said:

Whatever!  Our pipe is perfect; it's awesome; it's fun, and it's lit up!  It's been well used and everyone loves it!  Telluride is happy . . . competitions and training are fine, but let's not be so serious; we have the best of the best.  And thank you, Mr. Riley and Telski!

Dave's reply: Hi SW Wannabe, thanks for your support. We'll take some survey equipment out and shoot some lines to check it out. No worries.

# January 30, 2010 8:26 PM

HWK said:

Dave,

I am so stoked to have this pipe! I have been an aspiring pro snowboarder here in Telluride for close to ten years. In two weeks I will be competing in my first Pro Pipe event in Aspen and I just took 3rd place at my first Pro Boardercross race at the NorAms in Copper Mtn.

With this new pipe under the lights I am refining my tricks and I am working on some new ones so I can throw down this season. I am very grateful to have this halfpipe in Telluride and cannot express how instrumental this is in my training. I'd like to second everything stated in Jason's comments as well, and am glad to hear your going to scope out the right wall. Seems like the years of Jason's  experience and knowledge warrant the usefulness of his feedback too.

Once again thank you very much for the pipe.  Looking forward to some spring shredding as well!

Harry

Dave's reply: We took survey equipment out and shot the elevation of both walls. They were only off by between 1 and 3 inches. I think it's an optical illusion because the amount of fill varies for the wall - but the elevations are right on.

# February 5, 2010 6:59 PM

Patrick said:

Just looking through the website and couldn't find any info or pictures about the superpipe and night park.  I'd love to see some updated pictures and video because it sounds like an awesome park.  Is the price going to drop for daylight savings?

Dave's reply: Hi Patrick, we'll get some updated pictures up on the pipe. The prices are not changing for daylight savings, but the hours will slip back to 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. to take advantage of the afternoon sunshine and great snow.

Thanks

# March 8, 2010 1:49 PM
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